I told him, 'You don't need to get gigs from the union. You can make your own band,' ... That's how he did it. He went down to the coffeehouse I told him to go to. A month later, I'm around the corner at another cafe. Friend of mine comes up and says, 'You gotta hear this band This guy was great' And I went around the corner and went, 'It's him It's that guy' He was so magical.