Then we lost a child, there was that incident, a four year-old little girl. It had a profound effect on me and on Barbara. You know, ... when you lose a child some families go apart. There's a common wisdom that the loss of a loved one for parents divides them later on. People cite divorce statistics. In our case it was just the other way around. And our family has been close, close, close. And Barbara and I have been married for over 50 years, and I think that horrible incident drew us even closer together.