Just before the meeting got started, Andy Grove, the gruff chairman of Intel's board at the time, pulled Pottruck aside. 'When you got promoted to CEO,' ... 'did that make you a better man' I said no. He said, 'Well then, do you think the fact that you're no longer CEO of Schwab means you're not a better man' I said, 'No, I don't think so.' He said, 'You're as good a man as you were last week. Hold your head high.' It helped me a lot.